I think it's our tradition. It comes out of a particularly painful part of our history. But it's been the way we've been able to heal. At first, it was a reminder of the rebellion. It was a price the districts had to pay. But I think it has grown from that. I think it's something that knits us all together.
— So you like an underdog?
— Everyone likes an underdog.
— I don't. Have you been out there? 10? 11? 12?
— Not personally. No.
— Well, I have. There are lots of underdogs. Lots of coal, too. Grow crops, minerals, things we need. There are lots of underdogs.